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No Hacks: The Mindset Behind Digital Optimization and Growth
Welcome to No Hacks, the podcast where expertise meets creativity to revolutionize digital experiences. Hosted by industry veteran Slobodan (Sani) Manić, this engaging series tackles marketing, conversion rate optimization (CRO), and user experience (UX) without relying on gimmicks or shortcuts.
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No Hacks: The Mindset Behind Digital Optimization and Growth
[SHORT] Bridging the Gap: How Product and CRO Are Merging with Hesh Fekry
In this episode, I talked to Hesh Fekry from CXL about the evolving relationship between Product and Conversion Rate Optimization (CRO). How are these once-separate disciplines are increasingly overlapping in scope, mindset, and execution? The conversation touches on the historical separation of CRO from Product, the shift towards experimentation as a more fitting term, and how AI and new tools are enabling professionals to bridge skill gaps faster than ever before.
Key Takeaways:
- CRO & Product Have Always Been Similar: While traditionally seen as separate roles, both disciplines focus on user insights, problem-solving, and optimizing user flows.
- The Issue with the CRO Label: CRO as a term has long been tied to a narrow metric-focused approach (conversion rates), but its scope has expanded far beyond that.
- Experimentation as the New CRO: The rebranding of CRO towards experimentation reflects the broader impact CRO professionals have, including retention, monetization, and pricing strategies.
- AI is Accelerating the Shift: New AI-driven tools make it easier to fill skill gaps, allowing professionals to be more T-shaped and take on cross-functional responsibilities.
- CRO Should Be Involved from Day One: Rather than stepping in after a product is built, CRO principles should be applied from the earliest stages to validate assumptions and de-risk decisions.
- Product and CRO are Learning from Each Other: It's not just CRO learning from Product—it’s a continuous loop where both disciplines borrow and refine each other’s methodologies.
Notable Quotes:
📌 "Experimentation is just about expanding the role beyond a single metric." – Hesh
📌 "With AI, the skill gap is getting smaller, and the overlap is growing larger." – Hesh
📌 "CRO almost feels like it should be in the room from day one." – Sani
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Product and CRO are no longer separate silos. They are converging into a more holistic approach to user experience, optimization, and experimentation. As AI and new tools continue to evolve, the ability to cross these boundaries will become a key advantage for professionals in both fields.
Tune in for a deep dive into how these changes are shaping the future of digital growth!
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