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No Hacks: Optimizing Websites for AI Agents & Browsers
The internet is shifting. 50% of web traffic is now non-human. No Hacks is the guide to optimizing your website for this new reality.
Why does this matter? Because the next generation of customers won't visit your website. Their AI agents will do it for them. If your site isn't structured for machines, you become invisible to the buyers of the future.
Host Slobodan Manic (https://slobodanmanic.com) breaks down the roadmap required to survive the transition from UX (User Experience) to AX (Agent Experience). From accessible content to clear task flows, learn how to optimize your online presence so autonomous agents can browse, understand, and complete tasks on your behalf.
No Hacks: Optimizing Websites for AI Agents & Browsers
[SHORT] How to Design Products That Drive Real Behavior Change with Roos van Duijnhoven
Too many product teams fall into a dangerous trap—they optimize for in-app engagement while forgetting the bigger picture: real behavior change.
In my latest episode of No Hacks Snacks, I sat down with Roos van Duijnhoven to break down the difference between:
✅ Designing for engagement – Keeping users interacting with your product.
✅ Designing for behavior change – Helping users take action outside the product.
Take fitness apps as an example:
🏋️♂️ Liking workouts & setting goals? Engagement.
🏃♂️ Actually going for a run? Behavior change.
We also explored:
🔹 The Little e vs. Big E framework for building better products
🔹 Why engagement ≠ impact (and what to measure instead)
🔹 How to create long-term value, not just short-term wins
💡 If you’re in UX, growth, or product design, this conversation is a must-watch!
Are you designing for engagement or behavior change? Drop your thoughts in the comments! 👇
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